Les hélicoptères et la Seconde Guerre mondiale

Cpt Miller a écrit:Il n'y avait pas d'hélicoptère pendant la WW2 tu doit te tromper de la peridode Vietnam

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motpulk a écrit:Merci. Je ne trouve pas d'infos sur les hélicos allemands.
Quand je dis hélico je pense aussi autogire.

Je voudrais également des infos sur les éventuelles utilisations opérationnelles des héliocoptères américains développés par Sikorsky.
Du genre: VS-300 (1940), R-5 (dénommé HO25-1 par l'US NAvy), R-4 (HNS-1?)
ou l'hélicoptère Bell 47 (moins intéressant puisqu'il date de 1945).

Cpt Miller a écrit:Il n'y avait pas d'hélicoptère pendant la WW2 tu doit te tromper de la peridode Vietnam

Amicalement

Cpt Miller a écrit:A ouai je les imaginer pas du tout comme sa ... Ba on peut pas être bon partout
éscuse moi Motpulk
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By the afternoon of 25th February 1945, a single Fa-223 was to be moved to Grudziadz (Graudenz) by Hitler’s personal order. The purpose of the flight was to be specified later on. By that time, the only available aircraft was V51 (WNr.22300051) with Stammkezeichen GW+PA, just completed in Berlin Tempelhof’s Halle 6. The helicopter was moved to Mühldorf by Focke factory pilot Eng. Carl Bode on 14th February. He intended to pass it into Transportstaffel 40 (also known as Lufttrasportstaffel 40). The unit was sill forming-up and was unable to accept any helicopters, though it was to use such types of aircraft exclusively. In this case Bode flew it to Ochsenhausen – and there had received an order to move to Grudziadz. Since part of the flight was to be performed over territories captured by Soviets, with destination surrounded for three weeks, he refused. Being civilian, he would be instantly shot as a spy in case of shooting down his aircraft. Such argue couldn’t be used by another factory pilot Lt. Eng. Hans Helmut Gerstenhauer, who – acompanied by board technitian Möller and Fw. Friedrichs acing as team’s „bodyguard” – started work consuming process of preparation. The task was not easy and extended itself till the morning of next day.

The flight had been started, mostly with strong headwind reaching 60 km/h, and problems with fuel supplies during intermediate landings at airfields bombed by USAAF. In result of these, he reached Stettin in the morning of 28th February. There, the journey had to be suspended till the weather improves. The next stop was planned at Reitz near Stolp, but lack of fuel forced Gerstenhauer to go a few kilometers back to Stolp-West. Here, the mission objective was revealed: three POWs from Seydlitz army were to be taken away from sport stadium, being no less than 500 meters from Soviet lines. [a word of explanation here: Gen Walther von Seydlitz-Kurzbach became POW at Stalingrad. He agreed to collaborate with Soviets as a member of “Free Germany National Committee”. In 1943, he even became a chief of it. Hitler hated his ex-soldiers and named them renegades. In this particular case, he wanted personally interrogate those three POWs captured at Grudziadz] The mission was extremely dangerous. The flight, a 40 km long segment of which was to be performed over Soviet-controlled territories, was to be finished at a field demolished by mortar fire. Ofw.Ahrend flew Storch twice to Grudziadz and confirmed all Gerstenhauer’s doubts, especially ones concerning approach for landing. Descending with no radioaltimeter in the dark was to be slow, giving Russian AA enough time for precise fire. In addition, it was possible to loose the path after pilot is blinded by searchlights. For the time being, the task couldn’t be performed due to bad weather. On 5th March, it’s temporary improvement was used by Gerstenhauer for a flight to Gotenhafen-Hexengrunt over the Baltic coast, and even further to Praust, where 1./NAGr 4 was based. It’s commanding officer Oblt Joachim Fischer openly expressed his doubts as for successful flight to Grudziadz and back. He even ordered a pair of Bf-109G-8s to check possible route, but aircraft were welcomed by heavy AA fire, so their pilots suggested not fly there. In this case crew of Fa-223 had to wait for alternate orders.

By next day, a Bf-109G-8 of 1./NAGr 4 was badly shot over Red Army lines and made a forced landing near Goschin village (today’s Goszyn, 5 km west of Tczew). The coordinates of downed Lt Schadewitz were radioed by his wingman, so Gerstenhauer decided to help using GW+PA. The German troops were in retreat there, but they at least tried to control the situation. No more than two hours after lucky German pilot was brought home, 1./NAGr 4 was ordered to move to Hexengrunt immediately. Gerstenhauer moved along and after landing received an order to return to Werder. His mission was cancelled, especially due to fall of Grudziadz. He realized himself that return to the West could be difficult as all airfields on the way were destroyed or taken over by Red Army. The nearest available airbase was Swinemünde-Garz, 320 kilometers away, and the flight was to be performed non-stop over Baltic See. As auxiliary fuel tanks were not available, the necessary fuel shall be hand-pumped from 200 liter steel barrel put into the fuselage. Eventually, in the afternoon of 9th March Gerstenhauer departed. He kept very low to avoid detection by hostile fighters, and landed at the destination airfield after 3 hours and 35 minutes. Bad weather caused that he reached Werder three days later.

Above story is mainly based on “Helicopters of the Third Reich” by Steve Coates; Ian Allan; Hersham 2002